Thomasville Citrangequat
University of California, Riverside — Citrus Variety Collection
https://citrusvariety.ucr.edu/crc1440 (opens in a new tab)
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jim VH · Tropical Fruit Forum · Cold Hardy Citrus · July 19th, 2022
https://www.tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=48241.msg466509#msg466509 (opens in a new tab)
First-hand forum account, paraphrased; not an independently verified trial.
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Ilya11 · Tropical Fruit Forum · Cold Hardy Citrus · February 18th, 2016
https://www.tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=19167.msg239111#msg239111 (opens in a new tab)
First-hand forum account, paraphrased; not an independently verified trial.
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a_Vivaldi · Tropical Fruit Forum · Cold Hardy Citrus · February 22nd, 2025
https://www.tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=57841.msg547449#msg547449 (opens in a new tab)
First-hand forum account, paraphrased; not an independently verified trial.
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tedburn · Tropical Fruit Forum · Cold Hardy Citrus · May 2nd, 2026
https://www.tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=43470.msg581145#msg581145 (opens in a new tab)
First-hand forum account, paraphrased; not an independently verified trial.
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The Mulberries · YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQaTs11tpgo (opens in a new tab)
Reviewed English auto-captions, 0:01–39:38 of 39:45. At 5:37–5:43, a speaker offers Thomasville as a lime substitute and says it is key-lime-like. This is a subjective serving/use comparison, not a cultivar-wide sensory measurement or identity claim.
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The Mulberries · YouTube · 2026-05-14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BPp5SNEsmU (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: A former patio Thomasville tree was flowering and fruiting heavily; the speaker likes its fruit green or yellow before fully orange (30:51–31:35).
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The Mulberries · YouTube · 2024-11-01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8xGcCvCu8Y (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: In North Carolina, a second-year Thomasville graft produced green to almost-ripe fruit. The grower described green fruit as lime-like for cooking; at yellow it had a slightly sweet edible peel and tart juice; and overripe orange fruit became soft and bland. In the green sampled fruit, the grower reported few seeds, very juicy pulp, orange-like aroma, sour/tart but not overly sour taste, and no detected trifoliate bitterness. These are grower impressions by ripeness stage, not universal maturity dates or hardiness guidance.
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Le Pepin Breizh · YouTube · 2026-02-15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fT_EhUvc0o (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: After a snowy night reported at −4/−5°C, the grower said most small orange Thomasville fruit froze, while larger fruit near a wall remained firm. The grower described some leaf and new-growth damage but considered the tree fine. This is a site-specific report; it does not establish a cultivar hardiness limit.
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The Mulberries · YouTube · 2024-07-09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf7mpU0Bgl4 (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: The grower showed Thomasville scions grafted on trifoliate orange that were less than one year old and already flowering or budding, and said the young grafts would not be allowed to carry fruit yet. This supports early flowering of these grafted scions, not seedling bearing age or a completed first-year harvest.
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alexFortJames · YouTube · 2026-03-07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EeJomXg76Y (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: The Thomasville fruit in this comparison had been refrigerated through winter and was not presented as freshly picked fully ripe fruit. The grower reported no visible seeds in the cut specimen, a lime-like taste, and tougher skin than Augusta citrangequat. In the grower’s zone 8 setting, Thomasville was said to be useful green around Thanksgiving but not fully ripen without protection; the caption wording at 6:06 conflicts with the immediately following green-use statement. The grower also considered Thomasville the least seedy and versatile for cooking and drinks among the three sampled citrangequats. These are source-specific observations.
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Tom McClendon · YouTube · 2026-05-03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKHh1ODKfhI (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: In an exposed Greene County, Georgia orchard, the grower showed an own-root Thomasville seedling from an old Savannah tree. He described it as initially lanky, then rounded with age, estimated it at about 15 feet, and reported repeated flowering with rain cycles, productive crops, and marmalade use. He said its fruit could retain through winter when lows remained around 20°F or the low 20s. This is a grower report, not an instrument-controlled freeze threshold.
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The Mulberries · YouTube · 2026-07-05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=526cVoe8GIg (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: The grower framed small Thomasville plant and rootstock trials as site-specific experiments. He described maturity and use as conditional by stage and protection, reported one very small standard-trifoliate-rootstock plant surviving a 10°F low with leaf burn and twig dieback, and observed different early growth and fruit holding among rootstock combinations. These are local, unreplicated observations, not cultivar specifications or controlled hardiness trials.
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The Mulberries · YouTube · 2025-01-13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAVid6H5ZLc (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: A direct tasting used yellow-to-orange, partly green greenhouse fruit from small Flying Dragon-rootstock plants. The presenter described aromatic sweet zest, difficult peeling, few seeds, orange and kumquat-like flavor, tart pulp, and no detected bitterness or trifoliate influence; he discussed fresh, marmalade, candied-peel and juice uses. Four fruit averaged about 42 g, and the captioned reading was 9 °Brix with pH 2.7 from combined juice. This is one greenhouse/rootstock-specific tasting. The matching scorecard summarizes this same tasting, not an independent sample.
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The Mulberries · YouTube · 2024-12-06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE7_WaleiHk (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: In the grower’s setting, Thomasville plants were described as relatively dwarf and slow-growing but repeatedly flowering and carrying many fruit. The grower called yellow-to-orange fruit excellent and green-stage fruit lime- and orange-flavored. This short personal report has no measured fruit size, hardiness test, or annual-flowering measurement.
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raregrowsnj · YouTube · 2026-02-01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KzWkAqgDnU (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: The presenter and a second taster tried one very ripe orange Thomasville fruit. The presenter recalled earlier green and yellow fruit as bitter or sour; the second taster called the current whole fruit delicious. The suggestion that further hanging until March could improve it was speculative. Captions end shortly before the stated runtime.
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Tom McClendon · YouTube · 2025-02-14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrT4pfWWhAw (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: On Valentine’s Day 2025, the grower described winter-hanging Thomasville fruit after substantial but not extreme cold. He considered remaining fruit ornamental rather than clearly edible, said fruit could persist to spring or summer unless frozen, and reported loss of most fruit after a low around 20°F or below. This is a site-specific winter-fruit account, not controlled freezing evidence.
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The Mulberries · YouTube · 2025-01-07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQS6732bMO0 (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: The grower described greenhouse protection allowing Thomasville fruit to ripen beyond the green stage. He and his wife found current-color fruit palatable with sour-kumquat and navel-orange flavor, preferred fruit from yellow onward, and said orange fruit could dry out if left hanging too long. This is a personal greenhouse harvest preference without a defined sample or maturity standard.
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Living Growing Kitchen · YouTube · 2026-02-23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3RZn8LYTM4 (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: A backyard potted-tree grower described green fruit as lime-like, yellow fruit as lemon–lime-like, and orange fruit as orange-like. In a ripe-fruit tasting, she called it very juicy, orange-like, a little tart, and sweeter than Meyer lemon. These are one presenter’s unmeasured observations by maturity stage.
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Tough Citrus · YouTube · 2024-01-21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-of419fZWw (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: In coastal southern North Carolina, a grower described productive Thomasville plants and green fruit as exceptionally juicy, lime- and orange-flavored, useful as a lime substitute, and usually with one or two seeds. A second taster preferred an in-between green/yellow fruit as lime-like and more useful than orange fruit. The source includes unsupported history, hardiness and disease assertions, excluded from this citation; ripeness impressions conflict with other source accounts.
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Tom McClendon · YouTube · 2024-07-23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIk20HEtnlo (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: In Greene County, Georgia, a grower showed an own-root seedling from an old Savannah tree, estimated at 8–9 feet after about five years. He reported local blooms/crops in April, early June and July, late-November/early-December coloring, lime-like fruit before color, and fruit that may persist into summer if not frozen. This is a specific seedling and location, not a cultivar-wide growth or maturity specification.
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The Mulberries · YouTube · 2026-08-30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5yaKeSA7Gk (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: In a late-summer tasting of green Thomasville fruit, the presenter described lime-like appearance and aroma, a couple of seeds that were more than usual for the grower, good acidity, and a clean flavor without perceived trifoliate off-flavor. The presenter said the fruit was not fully lime-like and, at this early stage, had not developed its sugars; a spoken reading was 7 °Brix. The presenter used the fruit in sweetened limeade. These are source-specific impressions of an early green sample, distinct from the ripe greenhouse fruit in the separate Thomasville scorecard/video record.
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D. J. Mabberley · Blumea · 2004-12-10
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/55e1/ea4cb1ca448c78446864de9f9e04c838cdcf.pdf (opens in a new tab)
Mabberley identifies Thomasville as a citrangequat first fruited at Thomasville, Georgia, from a 1909 cross made at Eustis, Florida, and specifies Willits citrange as the pollen parent and oval kumquat as the other parent.
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USDA APHIS Identification Technology Program · USDA APHIS
https://idtools.org/citrus_id/index.cfm?entityID=8395&packageID=1179 (opens in a new tab)
USDA Citrus ID reproduces Swingle and Reece’s account of the 1909 citrangequat breeding program: Swingle used Willits and Rusk citrange pollen on safeguarded oval and round kumquat flowers. Thomasville, Sinton and Telfair are named among the resulting cultivars; the generic passage does not by itself identify each individual parent pair.
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VirginiaFruitGrower · YouTube · 2019-05-16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj4hRFY6UG8 (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: The grower tasted a late-held, overripe Thomasville sample with mostly depleted flesh. He said Thomasville is ordinarily juicy around December, can be used green as a lime before frost, and in this late sample tasted kumquat-like, slightly bitter but acceptable; he suggested marmalade. This is not a fresh or ideal-fruit sample and does not establish universal fruit quality.
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Tom McClendon · YouTube · 2024-07-01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2S7GoRq1Uo (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: The grower reported that Hershell Boyd at Madison Citrus Nursery grafted Thomasville on about May 15 and, roughly six weeks later, one graft was already blooming and setting fruit. This is an attributed nursery observation of grafted-scion precocity, not mature harvest or seedling bearing age.
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The Mulberries
The publisher’s Thomasville scorecard summarizes the same yellow-orange greenhouse tasting as bAVid6H5ZLc: rounded mean weight 42 g, 9 °Brix, pH 2.7, sweet/sour fruit without reported bitterness, very juicy flesh, difficult peeling and orange/kumquat flavor. Original trait ratings are quality scores, not the catalog’s intensity categories. The card and video count as one sample; printed hardiness bands are guidance rather than a freeze measurement.
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Hardy Citrus · 2013-07-15
https://hardycitrus.blogspot.com/2013/07/glen-citrangedin.html (opens in a new tab)
Grower-authored comparison: Glen was described as less hardy and slower growing than Thomasville; comparative only, with no measured site or temperature reported.
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ilyaC and contributors · Citrus Growers Forum
http://citrusgrowersstatic.chez.com/web/viewtopiceba7.php (opens in a new tab)
Three-page English archive topic “Ichangquat.” IlyaC (France, about 40 km south of Paris) reported on 11 October 2011 that Thomasville fruit remained green while his Ichangquat fruit was beginning to yellow (page 3, post #48034). This is a visual, local color comparison, not a validated measure of internal maturity.
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manfromyard; clarkinks · Growing Fruit forum · 2026-08-23
Relevant posts: manfromyard #14 and clarkinks #15 (August 23, 2026). They report flowering on two individual Thomasville trees. Location, tree age, fruit quality, actual rootstock, and cold-exposure details are not supplied.
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Virginia Fruit Grower · YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkmAfuvdI1c (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: English auto-generated captions reviewed for this 38:11 video. At 15:45–17:11 the presenter identifies a separate Thomasville fruit, describes its shape/color and one observed seed, and tastes it. His “normally pretty juicy” remark is general rather than a measured property of this sample; no location, rootstock, or sample harvest date is given.
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Sweet Home Alabama Homestead · YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwsbN_o9ixs (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: English auto-generated captions reviewed from 0:01–4:34 of this 4:36 video. At 1:48–1:58, the speaker says their Thomasville took a little more damage than Swingle and Prague. This is a qualitative comparison; the captions do not identify a Thomasville tree or link the comment to a quantified cold event, protection level, duration, rootstock, or location.
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Tom McClendon · YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U4cYw7wbp4 (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: Tom McClendon describes his seed-grown Thomasville tree, about 20–25 years old, with many flower buds. He reports spider-mite problems on this tree under a cypress and an oak, while another of his Thomasville trees in the open did not seem to have the same problem. The comparison is specimen-specific; he offers the nearby trees as a possible explanation, not a demonstrated cause.
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jibro (attributed in user-provided excerpt) · Citrus Growers Forum (ProBoards)
Summary from user-provided translated excerpt: The supplied attachment attributes a Feb. 3, 2024 post to jibro and says it reproduces an AI DeepL translation of a Tiny Mandragore nursery listing. The excerpt reports Thomasville tolerance to −12°C and speculates it may tolerate more severe cold; separately it says fruit is damaged from −4°C and recommends protection from cold winds. These are translated, second-hand nursery claims about its plant, not an independently verified trial or a measurement by the forum poster. The full thread and original nursery text were not independently retrieved. The excerpt supplies no exact site, event date, exposure duration, temperature instrument, tree age, rootstock, or quantified recovery method; preserve the stated cold-wind qualification.
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The Mulberries · YouTube · 2024-01-19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0NHxaqW6Dk (opens in a new tab)
Summary from transcript: English auto-generated captions reviewed about 0:00–18:46 of the 18:49 video. The presenter describes Thomasville citrangequat fruit collected during a visit to Stan McKenzie in South Carolina. At 1:17–1:30, the presenter cautions that the cut fruit in this batch appear overripe and have dry spots; comments specific to Thomasville begin around 10:12.
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Josue (as supplied by user) · Citrus Growers Forum (ProBoards) · November 12, 2020
https://citrusgrowersv2.proboards.com/thread/674/hardy-citrus-reviews-taste (opens in a new tab)
User-provided excerpt attributed to Josue’s four-taster group report, with fruit obtained from Stan McKenzie the prior week in South Carolina zone 8a. This entry records only the Thomasville portion. The underlying thread has not been independently retrieved; exact accession, fruit count, maturity, and method are not stated. Four tasters is the number of tasters, not a stated fruit sample count.
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Citradia · Tropical Fruit Forum · October 21, 2019
https://www.tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=33633.msg369620#msg369620 (opens in a new tab)
Citradia’s post #8 reports that his Taiwanica died back almost to the ground each winter despite high-tunnel protection and later died after the tunnel was removed. The post then separately says citradia and Thomasville were the only hybrids that had returned from roots without protection two winters earlier. This is an individual grower report; site and winter temperatures are unspecified.
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Ilya11 · Tropical Fruit Forum · Cold Hardy Citrus · 2019-05-27
https://www.tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=30891.msg353753#msg353753 (opens in a new tab)
In post #353753, Ilya11 reports repeated Thomasville flowering in the author's climate, seed set after cross-pollination by other hybrids during spring bloom, and usually seedless fruit after early-July bloom when no other citrus is flowering. The author says Thomasville seed produces only nucellar seedlings, that cross-pollination is needed to induce seed, and that flowers carry some fertile pollen especially in hot weather; the author also reports producing several dozen hybrids with 5 Star Citrumelo. These are grower observations and claims; the post gives no locality, sample counts, pollination protocol, or genetic test confirming nucellarity or offspring parentage.
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Eyeckr · Hardy Citrus (USDA zone 8 or lower) forum archive · May 27, 2012
http://citrusgrowersstatic.chez.com/web/viewtopicf835.php (opens in a new tab)
On page 3, Eyeckr says his Thomasville trees are on their own roots. In the same report, he describes trifoliate-grafted backups among these own-root varieties, without specifying which had backups. This is an attributed grower statement; the post gives no accession, site temperature, tree count or exposure measurement for the Thomasville plants.
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alan · Hardy Citrus · January 13, 2014
https://hardycitrus.blogspot.com/2014/01/cold-hardiness-table_13.html (opens in a new tab)
The March 27, 2017 update lists Thomasville Citrangequat under “LEAVES RETAINED” after an extended warm period followed by 21°F on March 16, 2017, when older-leaf death was erratic among citrus. The table describes small numbers and limited cultural conditions; it gives no Thomasville plant count, rootstock, exposure duration or plant-level temperature. This is a limited leaf-retention observation, not a hardiness threshold.
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